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	<title>Comments on: Sports MMO&#8230; Already Out</title>
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		<title>By: Coppertopper</title>
		<link>http://www.nerfbat.com/2008/12/08/sports-mmo-already-out/comment-page-1/#comment-82287</link>
		<dc:creator>Coppertopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm..so by that definition CoD4 is now an mmo : /. 

not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm..so by that definition CoD4 is now an mmo : /. </p>
<p>not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: A Golf MMO? &#171; The Ancient Gaming Noob</title>
		<link>http://www.nerfbat.com/2008/12/08/sports-mmo-already-out/comment-page-1/#comment-81864</link>
		<dc:creator>A Golf MMO? &#171; The Ancient Gaming Noob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] trackback  In one of those minor moments of daily synchronicity, shortly after reading the write up over on Nerfbat about NHL 09, an email hit my inbox describing another sports [...]</description>
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<p>[...] trackback  In one of those minor moments of daily synchronicity, shortly after reading the write up over on Nerfbat about NHL 09, an email hit my inbox describing another sports [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joniboy</title>
		<link>http://www.nerfbat.com/2008/12/08/sports-mmo-already-out/comment-page-1/#comment-81467</link>
		<dc:creator>Joniboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am newcomer to this blog but I&#039;d thought I&#039;d point out that there exists an actual sports-based MMO out-there. It&#039;s called Football Superstars (that&#039;s actual football and not American-football). Forgotten address of website but its something along the lines of footballsuperstars.com. It looks like something I could easily enjoy as a Euro and I have signed up for access to it (right now its in Open Beta phase) not sure if asoccer-based MMO will be that appealing to anyone living across the pond though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am newcomer to this blog but I&#8217;d thought I&#8217;d point out that there exists an actual sports-based MMO out-there. It&#8217;s called Football Superstars (that&#8217;s actual football and not American-football). Forgotten address of website but its something along the lines of footballsuperstars.com. It looks like something I could easily enjoy as a Euro and I have signed up for access to it (right now its in Open Beta phase) not sure if asoccer-based MMO will be that appealing to anyone living across the pond though.</p>
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		<title>By: Vald</title>
		<link>http://www.nerfbat.com/2008/12/08/sports-mmo-already-out/comment-page-1/#comment-81416</link>
		<dc:creator>Vald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hrm, sounds pretty cool, and pretty well thought out/ implemented.  And everyone knows playing Left Wing is where it&#039;s at - everyone watches the center, but being the fast &amp; agile LW takes them by surprise.  (Oh the memories of playing!)

Oh yeah, go Hawks, Detroit can DIAF.

Vald</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hrm, sounds pretty cool, and pretty well thought out/ implemented.  And everyone knows playing Left Wing is where it&#8217;s at &#8211; everyone watches the center, but being the fast &amp; agile LW takes them by surprise.  (Oh the memories of playing!)</p>
<p>Oh yeah, go Hawks, Detroit can DIAF.</p>
<p>Vald</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Shwayder</title>
		<link>http://www.nerfbat.com/2008/12/08/sports-mmo-already-out/comment-page-1/#comment-81415</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Shwayder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it&#039;s very cool. I played for a few hours last night. The advancement is mega slow in my opinion, but it&#039;s still doable. I&#039;m playing a defensive defenseman who happens to also score some sweet goals. I&#039;m still trying to get more comfortable with the controls, especially when it comes to guarding people in front of the net. But it&#039;s friggin&#039; fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s very cool. I played for a few hours last night. The advancement is mega slow in my opinion, but it&#8217;s still doable. I&#8217;m playing a defensive defenseman who happens to also score some sweet goals. I&#8217;m still trying to get more comfortable with the controls, especially when it comes to guarding people in front of the net. But it&#8217;s friggin&#8217; fun.</p>
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		<title>By: makkaio</title>
		<link>http://www.nerfbat.com/2008/12/08/sports-mmo-already-out/comment-page-1/#comment-81407</link>
		<dc:creator>makkaio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of my questions were answered in this &lt;a href=&quot;http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/897/897903p1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; IGN Story&lt;/a&gt;.  You can have a team of 50 people, which should make it easy to meet tournament schedules.  Don&#039;t have a full squad, then 3 of your players can be AI.  There is an advancement system that seems challenging but doable.  There are roles or classes with sniper being mentioned in the article.  I imagine enforcer would be one of them.  It seems like a cool interpretation of the Be A Pro side of the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of my questions were answered in this <a href="http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/897/897903p1.html" rel="nofollow"> IGN Story</a>.  You can have a team of 50 people, which should make it easy to meet tournament schedules.  Don&#8217;t have a full squad, then 3 of your players can be AI.  There is an advancement system that seems challenging but doable.  There are roles or classes with sniper being mentioned in the article.  I imagine enforcer would be one of them.  It seems like a cool interpretation of the Be A Pro side of the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Shwayder</title>
		<link>http://www.nerfbat.com/2008/12/08/sports-mmo-already-out/comment-page-1/#comment-81404</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Shwayder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s all a question of definition. To be honest, I probably wouldn&#039;t classify it as an MMO. An MMO to me has to have a persistent state world within which players can exist. Though avatars are persistent, and there are many thousands of them, there is no world within which this large number of players coexists.

However, if you classify Guild Wars as an MMO (which I really don&#039;t), then NHL &#039;09 is also an MMO. It has all the same traits as GW plus a few (even a lobby atmosphere from which players can fire up a game).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s all a question of definition. To be honest, I probably wouldn&#8217;t classify it as an MMO. An MMO to me has to have a persistent state world within which players can exist. Though avatars are persistent, and there are many thousands of them, there is no world within which this large number of players coexists.</p>
<p>However, if you classify Guild Wars as an MMO (which I really don&#8217;t), then NHL &#8217;09 is also an MMO. It has all the same traits as GW plus a few (even a lobby atmosphere from which players can fire up a game).</p>
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		<title>By: JuJutsu</title>
		<link>http://www.nerfbat.com/2008/12/08/sports-mmo-already-out/comment-page-1/#comment-81403</link>
		<dc:creator>JuJutsu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This sentence - â€œFeaturing 6 vs. 6 online team play, the ability to level up your player, tournament brackets, and awards at the end of every seasonâ€ - pretty much gives it the MMO definition. How is that different than getting a group together, questing, getting XP and gaining loot at the end?&quot;

I&#039;d say it&#039;s roughly 2988 players short. 12 players doesn&#039;t even come close to &#039;massively&#039; in my book. Your book may have different pages...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This sentence &#8211; â€œFeaturing 6 vs. 6 online team play, the ability to level up your player, tournament brackets, and awards at the end of every seasonâ€ &#8211; pretty much gives it the MMO definition. How is that different than getting a group together, questing, getting XP and gaining loot at the end?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s roughly 2988 players short. 12 players doesn&#8217;t even come close to &#8216;massively&#8217; in my book. Your book may have different pages&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.nerfbat.com/2008/12/08/sports-mmo-already-out/comment-page-1/#comment-81396</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You had me at &quot;screw you Red Wings!&quot;   :lol: 

Jason (resident drunken idiot of Channel Massive)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You had me at &#8220;screw you Red Wings!&#8221;   <img src='http://www.nerfbat.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Jason (resident drunken idiot of Channel Massive)</p>
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		<title>By: Whaledawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whaledawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;(screw you Red Wings!)&lt;/i&gt;

Blasphemer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>(screw you Red Wings!)</i></p>
<p>Blasphemer!</p>
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