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	<description>Game design, development, and industry commentary by MMO Game Designer Ryan Shwayder.</description>
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		<title>By: Defect 9</title>
		<link>http://www.nerfbat.com/2009/06/10/life-balance-family-work-play/comment-page-1/#comment-84866</link>
		<dc:creator>Defect 9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now if only siestas were mandatory in the states.  have lunch, take a nap, return refreshed.</description>
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		<title>By: Jeremy S.</title>
		<link>http://www.nerfbat.com/2009/06/10/life-balance-family-work-play/comment-page-1/#comment-84838</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m trying to be a successful writer, but writing is such a hard profession.  

If I could dream, I&#039;d dream of writing a winning book or two, and enjoying the residual income, while still writing articles maybe a few hours a week, and playing MMO&#039;s the rest :mrgreen:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to be a successful writer, but writing is such a hard profession.  </p>
<p>If I could dream, I&#8217;d dream of writing a winning book or two, and enjoying the residual income, while still writing articles maybe a few hours a week, and playing MMO&#8217;s the rest <img src='http://www.nerfbat.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Work Life Balance - We Fly Spitfires - MMORPG Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.nerfbat.com/2009/06/10/life-balance-family-work-play/comment-page-1/#comment-84832</link>
		<dc:creator>Work Life Balance - We Fly Spitfires - MMORPG Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] recently read an article on Nerfbat entitled Life Balance: Family, Work, Play. In case you don&#8217;t know, Nerfbat is a blog by Ryan Shwayder, a game designer who used to work [...]</description>
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<p>[...] recently read an article on Nerfbat entitled Life Balance: Family, Work, Play. In case you don&#8217;t know, Nerfbat is a blog by Ryan Shwayder, a game designer who used to work [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Shwayder</title>
		<link>http://www.nerfbat.com/2009/06/10/life-balance-family-work-play/comment-page-1/#comment-84828</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Shwayder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it&#039;s not common to work somewhere that is as family-friendly as 38 Studios, it&#039;s becoming less rare within the industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it&#8217;s not common to work somewhere that is as family-friendly as 38 Studios, it&#8217;s becoming less rare within the industry.</p>
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		<title>By: We Fly Spitfires</title>
		<link>http://www.nerfbat.com/2009/06/10/life-balance-family-work-play/comment-page-1/#comment-84827</link>
		<dc:creator>We Fly Spitfires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely agree. I work in the web industry and even that is demanding enough and I went through a period of doing very long hours. I eventually came out realising it just wasn&#039;t anyway to live and now I&#039;m trying to get a better balance between work, family and play.

You have to put your &#039;life&#039; and your family first. There is no second try  :smile:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely agree. I work in the web industry and even that is demanding enough and I went through a period of doing very long hours. I eventually came out realising it just wasn&#8217;t anyway to live and now I&#8217;m trying to get a better balance between work, family and play.</p>
<p>You have to put your &#8216;life&#8217; and your family first. There is no second try  <img src='http://www.nerfbat.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':smile:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: chooseareality</title>
		<link>http://www.nerfbat.com/2009/06/10/life-balance-family-work-play/comment-page-1/#comment-84826</link>
		<dc:creator>chooseareality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always wanted to do what you do for a living, but I also put my family first so thought I couldn&#039;t possibly have a job on the game development field.  Am I mistaken?  What are the real odds of finding a job that understands how important my family is?

If you look at my blog you can see I went on a rant about this recently.  

Great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always wanted to do what you do for a living, but I also put my family first so thought I couldn&#8217;t possibly have a job on the game development field.  Am I mistaken?  What are the real odds of finding a job that understands how important my family is?</p>
<p>If you look at my blog you can see I went on a rant about this recently.  </p>
<p>Great post!</p>
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		<title>By: JuJutsu</title>
		<link>http://www.nerfbat.com/2009/06/10/life-balance-family-work-play/comment-page-1/#comment-84825</link>
		<dc:creator>JuJutsu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post. I&#039;m hopeful that your view of how to lead life gets carried over into the content of your work. I&#039;d love to see a sequal post sometime in the future where you point out some features of Copernicus that are &#039;real-life friendly&#039; in a way that you personally appreciate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post. I&#8217;m hopeful that your view of how to lead life gets carried over into the content of your work. I&#8217;d love to see a sequal post sometime in the future where you point out some features of Copernicus that are &#8216;real-life friendly&#8217; in a way that you personally appreciate.</p>
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		<title>By: SmakenDahed</title>
		<link>http://www.nerfbat.com/2009/06/10/life-balance-family-work-play/comment-page-1/#comment-84824</link>
		<dc:creator>SmakenDahed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do the same sort of thing. I never get any complaints on what I deliver, I do what I have to, I do it well and I deliver it well before the deadlines and often end up helping others on the team... despite having similar hours to you (in fact, I think they&#039;re about the same).

I had the joys of having a dad that was a workaholic and at some point, it&#039;s almost like he forgot how to have fun. It was get up to work, come home and either work on the laptop or think about work things. He&#039;s excelled at his job, but missed out on his family. It&#039;s not something I want to fall into. 

I&#039;ve come close, but stepped back and looked at what I was missing out on; my first child was still a baby (not even a year old) and I was leaving early in the morning when he wasn&#039;t awake and coming home so late he was already asleep. Weekends were a little better, but I still worked on them. 

Now? I work about the same hours you do, sometimes I&#039;ll put in a little extra to wrap something up or help up, then go home (I use public transportation so I get about an hour of reading or listening to music there), spend some time with the wife/kids up until about 9ish when they&#039;re all in bed (wife included) then I&#039;ll play games or read a book. I do sometimes get on earlier, but that&#039;s usually when the kids are otherwise occupied (playing together, playing a game, watching a movie or playing with a friend).

Heh, I&#039;ve actually just started playing WoW with my oldest (nearly 6 years old). It&#039;s a lot of fun. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do the same sort of thing. I never get any complaints on what I deliver, I do what I have to, I do it well and I deliver it well before the deadlines and often end up helping others on the team&#8230; despite having similar hours to you (in fact, I think they&#8217;re about the same).</p>
<p>I had the joys of having a dad that was a workaholic and at some point, it&#8217;s almost like he forgot how to have fun. It was get up to work, come home and either work on the laptop or think about work things. He&#8217;s excelled at his job, but missed out on his family. It&#8217;s not something I want to fall into. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve come close, but stepped back and looked at what I was missing out on; my first child was still a baby (not even a year old) and I was leaving early in the morning when he wasn&#8217;t awake and coming home so late he was already asleep. Weekends were a little better, but I still worked on them. </p>
<p>Now? I work about the same hours you do, sometimes I&#8217;ll put in a little extra to wrap something up or help up, then go home (I use public transportation so I get about an hour of reading or listening to music there), spend some time with the wife/kids up until about 9ish when they&#8217;re all in bed (wife included) then I&#8217;ll play games or read a book. I do sometimes get on earlier, but that&#8217;s usually when the kids are otherwise occupied (playing together, playing a game, watching a movie or playing with a friend).</p>
<p>Heh, I&#8217;ve actually just started playing WoW with my oldest (nearly 6 years old). It&#8217;s a lot of fun. <img src='http://www.nerfbat.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brian 'Psychochild' Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian 'Psychochild' Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/agree  (Says the guy posting at just pat 4 AM and about to go to bed.)

When I was at 3DO, I saw people getting awards for basically ignoring their family to ship another stupid &lt;i&gt;Army Men&lt;/i&gt; game.  It was beyond belief that someone would miss the birth of their kid to meet an internal milestone and get a stupid button labeling them a &quot;star performer&quot;.  One whole team actually chipped in together to buy a couch for their area so they could take turns sleeping on it to not have to go home.

All these years later, I can just imagine them looking back on that work with some amount of regret.  3DO doesn&#039;t even exist as a company anymore, so all that work has little lasting value.  Was missing your kid&#039;s birth or not going home for a month worth it now?

My better half doesn&#039;t want kids, but I&#039;ve not been eager to have kids given how demanding a career can be.  Even if you work with wonderful people, there can still be that bit of hard feelings over someone &quot;not putting in the hours needed&quot; and preferring to go home and spend time with family, as Ryan says.  It&#039;s one of the big things that I think has to change about the industry if we&#039;re really want to be taken seriously.

I hope the future allows you to keep those priorities, Ryan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/agree  (Says the guy posting at just pat 4 AM and about to go to bed.)</p>
<p>When I was at 3DO, I saw people getting awards for basically ignoring their family to ship another stupid <i>Army Men</i> game.  It was beyond belief that someone would miss the birth of their kid to meet an internal milestone and get a stupid button labeling them a &#8220;star performer&#8221;.  One whole team actually chipped in together to buy a couch for their area so they could take turns sleeping on it to not have to go home.</p>
<p>All these years later, I can just imagine them looking back on that work with some amount of regret.  3DO doesn&#8217;t even exist as a company anymore, so all that work has little lasting value.  Was missing your kid&#8217;s birth or not going home for a month worth it now?</p>
<p>My better half doesn&#8217;t want kids, but I&#8217;ve not been eager to have kids given how demanding a career can be.  Even if you work with wonderful people, there can still be that bit of hard feelings over someone &#8220;not putting in the hours needed&#8221; and preferring to go home and spend time with family, as Ryan says.  It&#8217;s one of the big things that I think has to change about the industry if we&#8217;re really want to be taken seriously.</p>
<p>I hope the future allows you to keep those priorities, Ryan.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 05:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I chose Computer Science as a career path originally because I wanted to develop games.  That changed when I had the opportunity to visit with some developers from Origin Systems (before the EA buyout).  Crazy hours and death marches were not for me.  Little did I know that this wasn&#039;t limited to the game industry, and soon fell into that trap anyways.  I&#039;ve since grown wiser, and found a place that allows me to have priorities like yours (and now live vicariously by reading game developers&#039; blogs like yours, so keep it up :D).  I salute you for putting your family first, and glad to hear that there are places in the game industry that allow it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I chose Computer Science as a career path originally because I wanted to develop games.  That changed when I had the opportunity to visit with some developers from Origin Systems (before the EA buyout).  Crazy hours and death marches were not for me.  Little did I know that this wasn&#8217;t limited to the game industry, and soon fell into that trap anyways.  I&#8217;ve since grown wiser, and found a place that allows me to have priorities like yours (and now live vicariously by reading game developers&#8217; blogs like yours, so keep it up <img src='http://www.nerfbat.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> ).  I salute you for putting your family first, and glad to hear that there are places in the game industry that allow it.</p>
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